Help 😱

Latest post Wed, Jun 14 2017 2:03 by DnK. 4 replies.
  • Tue, Jun 13 2017 17:31

    • DnK
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    Help 😱

    How do you pronounce .. drochlá ann ?

    I tried listening to the pronunciation on..

    Now You're Talking but it's said so quickly I can't 

    understand it. 

    I could substitute it for another word, but I refuse !

    I shall rise above this word and defeat it ! Wah hah hah hah...

    So I overdramatize...😄😄

    Grma 😁

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  • Tue, Jun 13 2017 17:57 In reply to

    • Dale D
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    Re: Help 😱

    Haigh, DnK

    Okay, so I went to my old standby, teangleann.ie, and looked this up.....

    ...and, wouldn't you know it, "drochlá" is not there!

    There are whole bunches of words that do begin with"droch" and it is identified as a prefix, meaning "bad, ill, poor, evil" and evidently it is prefixed or compoumded to a host of other words in Irish to make "bad this" or "bad that", but "drochlá" was not included in their list.  I don't know why; it may be a proper use in one dialect and not in others.  It does not provide the pronunciation for any of the compound words (well, I didn't look at all of them...) but it did give a pronunciation for "droch".  In Ulster and Munster, it is very similar, sounding like "draw".  In Connacht, a slight, soft "kh" sound is added at the end.

    So, since you seem to be going for the Ulster version, I would suspect that "drawlaw" would be a close approximation of the pronunciation.

    Actually, I went back to check, and there are some of the compounds that do include a pronunciation, but not all of them.  "Drochdhuine" (bad person) is pronounced "draw-goin-ye" in Ulster.

    Since "l" does not lenite, I presume my assumed pronunciation would be correct.

    Good luck!

    Dale D 

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  • Tue, Jun 13 2017 18:28 In reply to

    • DnK
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    Re: Help 😱

    Go raibh maith agat, Dale !  I've noticed ( with the Ulster dialect , at least ), it's a lot like our Southern dialects. We have dialects within our dialects. lol

    Even my mama pronounces certain words differently than I do.

    This is in some ways a very hard language to learn, but it's so rewarding when you finally get that " Ohhh I get it now " moment !

    😁

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    • Dale D
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    I have noted before that accents and pronunciation shift slightly about every ten miles in Ireland.  You can tell, in some cases, which side of Belfast someone comes from, by the peculiarities of the accent.  I know there are regional and localized differences down south (US) as well, and I have heard some of them, but never made a serious study that would allow me to identify where someone grew up.  My wife grew up in Virginia,but her accent is more "mid-Atlantic than "southern", and I have teased most of it out of her by now.......

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  • Wed, Jun 14 2017 2:03 In reply to

    • DnK
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    Re: Help 😱

    So true ! My mama my aunt say...wuhr for where, lags for legs, etc.

    And to be honest, I say bay-yed for bed ..lol. We're so hick 😄

    One word I heard today in Now You're Talking, was the word ..fear.

    One way was fahr, another was fur, another fair.

    I would totally feel at home there 😁

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